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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:37 pm 
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Well, I always used to like the Russian/Chinese technology. As I read more about weapons and military equipment, I became fascinated with the AK-1xx series. However, I heard you guys won't be implanting an AK-103/. So, is it true? I vaguely remember someone saying it was too powerful or something.

So, I just want to know in real life what is the difference between the AK-47, AKM, AK-101, AK-103, and the AK-107/8. A quick list of each would b nice.

My other question is if this weapon will be included in Alliance and the WarStudio.

Thanks in Advance.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:15 pm 
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AncientZero wrote:
Well, I always used to like the Russian/Chinese technology. As I read more about weapons and military equipment, I became fascinated with the AK-1xx series. However, I heard you guys won't be implanting an AK-103/. So, is it true? I vaguely remember someone saying it was too powerful or something.

So, I just want to know in real life what is the difference between the AK-47, AKM, AK-101, AK-103, and the AK-107/8. A quick list of each would b nice.

My other question is if this weapon will be included in Alliance and the WarStudio.

Thanks in Advance.



http://world.guns.ru/assault/ak-101.gif
Ak-101
Caliber, mm: 5.56
Cartridge: NATO, 5.56x45
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Magazine capacity, rds: 30
Length, mm: overall: 943; w/folded stock: 700;
Barrel lenght: 415 mm
Sighting range,m: 1000
Weight, g: 3,400
Rate of fire, rds/min: 600
This "new-generation" Kalashnikov has the same old "AK-47" design with some improvements, and designed for world weapons market. Using NATO 5.56 cartridges, this device must show quite good capabilities.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/AK-103.gif
Ak-103
Caliber, mm: 7.62x39
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Length, mm: overall: 943; w/folded butt 700;
Barrel Length, mm: 415
Sighting range,m: 1000
Machine gun weight, g: 3,400
Magazine capacity, rds: 30
Rate of fire, rds/min: 600
Back to the future... Comeback of the 7.62mm cartridges is inspired by some weak points of low-impulse 5.45/5.56mm loads. More powerful than its predescent AK-74, this rifle employs many of today's new technologies. Long live AK-47 :-)


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Ak-102,104, and 105
aliber, mm: 5.56x45 (5.56mm NATO); 7.62x39; 5.45x39
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Length, mm: overall: 824; w/folded butt 586
Barrel Length, mm: 314
Sighting range,m: 1000
Machine gun weight, kg: 3,0 w/o magazine
Magazine capacity, rds: 30
Rate of fire, rds/min: 600
This "compact" members of AK-10x family designed primary for comercial sales outside of Russia, so all three most common "assault rifle" calibers are represented. This series has better characteristics than AKS-74U, mostly because of lenghten barrel.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ak-107.jpg
Ak-107 and 108

Caliber, mm: 5,45x39 (5,56NATO for AK108)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs, balanced bolt-carrier/bolt group to reduce recoil jumping
Length, mm: overall: 943; w. stock folded 700;
barrel lenght: 415 mm
Sighting range,m: 1000
Weigth, g: 3,400
Magazine capacity, rds: 30
Rate of fire, rds/min: 850 . (900 for AK108)
New modification of AK design - this time with balanced automatic gas driven engine. "Balanced" means that this system has 2 opposite moving gas pistons instead of one. main gas piston drives bolt carrier (via gas rod), secondary piston drives compensating mass (via its own rod) in direction, opposite to bolt carrier. This movement greatly reduced muzzle jump and increased accuracy in full-auto mode.


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Ak47/akm
Caliber 7.62x39 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs
Overall length: 870 mm
Barrel length: 415 mm
Weight, with empty magazine: AK 4,3 kg; AKM 3,14 kg
Magazine capacity 30 rounds (40 rounds box magazines and 75 rounds drums from RPK also may be used)
Cyclic rate of fire 600 rounds per minute
Maximum effective range: about 400 meters
The orginal :D

Btw the ak-103 would not be put in alliance because it was to powerfull...it uses the same as the orginal ak47 7.62x39...All these guns are just varients of the ak47 or ak74...nothing more.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:27 pm 
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What was named as too powerful was the AK94.

AK 1XX series will not be included because they are AKMs and AK74s, or the S variants, but with ugly furniture.

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I bet it looks just like the AK47, which is probably the most cliched game weapon.

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That too.

Pretty much anything that looks, feels, smells, or even tastes like an AKM, AK74, or a few of the folding stock variants won't be added.

That's bad news for all you AK-o-philes.

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DerMann wrote:
What was named as too powerful was the AK94.


wtf is that?


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Well, I see it's an upgrade from the AK-47, but can anyone go in specifics about what's the real difference? lol, thanks.

Also, Dermann, do you mean the the AN-94? OR is that a different gun from the AK-94?


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D_LaMz wrote:
DerMann wrote:
What was named as too powerful was the AK94.


wtf is that?


Lol, I'm not even sure. I think I'm trying to say is that the AN-94 is what was referred to as too powerful.

AncientZero wrote:
Well, I see it's an upgrade from the AK-47, but can anyone go in specifics about what's the real difference? lol, thanks.

Also, Dermann, do you mean the the AN-94? OR is that a different gun from the AK-94?


Yeah, I was referring to the AN-94. Thanks for the correction.

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i think its because it has some double shot burst with null kick,

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Colt .45 Killer wrote:
i think its because it has some double shot burst with null kick,


LOL, no, not null kick. The cycling rate of 2-round burst on the AN-94 is about 1800 RPM. While fast, you're still getting the recoil before the first round exists.


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Would that rule out the G-11 on the same basis?

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g11 is a scarry thing, 3 bullets at a time.

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Colt .45 Killer wrote:
g11 is a scarry thing, 3 bullets at a time.

I'de like to see a G11 in Alliance too. :D

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spm1138 wrote:
Would that rule out the G-11 on the same basis?


No, the G11's burst has a much higher cyclic rate. 2200+ RPM.


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not much sense putting in a million AK variants.


theres far too many of them and many of them have little if any major difference.

all we need is a few of the major variants.

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Chaunsey wrote:
not much sense putting in a million AK variants.


theres far too many of them and many of them have little if any major difference.

all we need is a few of the major variants.


Yeah. Some AK-47 variant, some AK-74 variant, and a Krinkov should do it.

Besides, if you add a bunch of AK variants, I want different uppers for the M16.


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Sturmwehr wrote:
Chaunsey wrote:
not much sense putting in a million AK variants.


theres far too many of them and many of them have little if any major difference.

all we need is a few of the major variants.


Yeah. Some AK-47 variant, some AK-74 variant, and a Krinkov should do it.

Besides, if you add a bunch of AK variants, I want different uppers for the M16.


The Krinkov is a must :D.....folding stock and silencer would be nice :D.

If we could have different uppers.....I want a .50 Beowolf for CQB :D

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It's a waste of time. Moreover, people will feel cheated if oneof the big reasons they get the game is because it has 200+ weapons, bu they later discover, to their great disappointment, half of those 200 are variants.

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