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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:41 pm 
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Every weapon, it seems has some historical significance. For example, the M1s characteristic "ping" after the last round was fired changed the balance of power. At first, it was a great disadvanatage, because it would give away the position of our troops. Then, later on our troops learned how to use this "feature" to their advanatage. By throwing an empty magazine on the ground, they could simulate the "ping" thus tricking the Germans into cming out of cover.


I'm sure other weaons had similar histories.

I'de liket o see al this representd in Alliance.

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Every weapon, it seems has some historical significance. For example, the M1s characteristic "ping" after the last round was fired changed the balance of power. At first, it was a great disadvanatage, because it would give away the position of our troops. Then, later on our troops learned how to use this "feature" to their advanatage. By throwing an empty magazine on the ground, they could simulate the "ping" thus tricking the Germans into cming out of cover.


I'm sure other weaons had similar histories.

I'de liket o see al this representd in Alliance.


Actually you if your standing in grass or something you wouldnt be able to recreat anything except the sound of metal hiting soft floor....

During World War II when our paratroopers landed in france before the beach invasions they were given these little things..cant recall what they were called but you pushed it down and it made a "click" noise well....it sounded just like the kar98's safety I believe...something of that sort.

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it was a called a cricket, and it sounded like the bolt.

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Bidiot wrote:
it was a called a cricket, and it sounded like the bolt.


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Bidiot wrote:
it was a called a cricket, and it sounded like the bolt.

It was used for communication when verbal challenges wouldn't work (because the enemy might hear you). One cricket click was meant to be answered by two clicks from the other party such that everyone could identify other friendly forces.

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I believe the cricket was only used by the paratroopers during the first days of D-Day. The ping from the M1 giving them away has been debated a lot as being a rumor or true.

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Sox34 wrote:
Bidiot wrote:
it was a called a cricket, and it sounded like the bolt.

It was used for communication when verbal challenges wouldn't work (because the enemy might hear you). One cricket click was meant to be answered by two clicks from the other party such that everyone could identify other friendly forces.


Correct, And if i remember correctly the bolt back made one click like sound, and then the bolt locking forward made another, two clicks.

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Wasn't that from The Longest Day? I've never seen the entirety of that movie, but I seem to recall that part.

Oh and in real life, bolts don't sound like that unless you're using 120% effort.

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Wasn't that from The Longest Day? I've never seen the entirety of that movie, but I seem to recall that part.

Oh and in real life, bolts don't sound like that unless you're using 120% effort.


Yes it was. The allied paratrooper was all alone and heard a German use the action on the k98 and he thought it was one of his buddies..he comes running out and gets shot.

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It was, I've heard stores of stuff like that else where though.

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I believe the cricket was only used by the paratroopers during the first days of D-Day. The ping from the M1 giving them away has been debated a lot as being a rumor or true.


The SAS used them(cricket) for a while, I'm pretty sure.


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the chauchau (i cant spell french words and im too lazy to look it up, sry) taught the us the meaning of the word "disfunctional". it really is the single worst weapon of all time in my opinion, and set down many of the do's and dont's of weapon production. leave it to the french.
on the other hand, the mp44 and the ak47 taught the world the meaning of a good assault rifle. i include the mp44 because it is the first widely used assault rifle and really did the formula pretty well, while the ak of course has set the benchmark for the standard assault rifle.
in the medieval ages, the custom-made cannons used to destroy castles taught european engineers that gunpowder can hurt when it blows up in ur face.
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Bigdaddy wrote:
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Wasn't that from The Longest Day? I've never seen the entirety of that movie, but I seem to recall that part.

Oh and in real life, bolts don't sound like that unless you're using 120% effort.


Yes it was. The allied paratrooper was all alone and heard a German use the action on the k98 and he thought it was one of his buddies..he comes running out and gets shot.


Lol, yeah that's right.

*Creeping up a wall*

*Hears what he thinks is a cricket*

"Hey guys, I've been looking all over for you!"

*BOOM*

*Cricket sounds super-imposed the K98k bolt cycle*

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My personal thoughts about the ''Ping'' from the M1 and germans running them over because they know their outta ammo. Feels stupid to me.

When your buddy needs to reload he shouts ''Reloading'' or ''Magasine''
and thats when you need to shoot alittle extra to give him cover.
Unless a guy was alone and the enemy knew that I dont think they would wanna risk their livev trying to run them over.

Fear plays a vital role in war and people are not as brave as movies make them look like. When theres 2 companies in a firefight you wont hear no ''ping''. All youl hear is guns shooting everywhere.

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i guess its to late to say this now, but the whole "ping thing" is malarky, if your close enough to hear the ping, then the 8 gunshots from the m1 garand means you WONT hear it, also , the m1 garand has a bayonet. ergo, you wouldent be so smart in chargin just bcause you heard a "ping", that only happens in fps games where teamwork is less likely and the person is probably alone.

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ive heard rumors though that the bayonet sometimes through off the aim. dont know why, but thats what i heard


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The bayonet on the Mosins usually needs to be on since it was factory sighted with it on.

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Yeah, I don't think that's an issue in real life. Unless you're exceptionally weak and can barely hold a Mauser up, the sighting's not going to be affected by the bayonet. As a matter of fact, I hit better shots with the bayonet attached. As Aero said, Mosin Nagants require the bayonet to be affixed inorder to be sighted properly.

I think it's just a way for developers to balance games.

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